She had tremendous insight to his personality and understood his loneliness. Despite how limited their time together ultimately was, I felt not only was their chemistry the strongest, but their love was the most powerful. Oh Doctor. REINETTE: Doctor. I recognized him as the King of France. I find the whole love story to not be particuarly well developed (although in its defense, it was only one episode), nor was it believable. Jeanne Antoinette Poisson, Marquise de Pompadour (/ ˈ p ɒ m p ə d ʊər /, French: [pɔ̃paduʁ] (); 29 December 1721 – 15 April 1764), commonly known as Madame de Pompadour, was a member of the French court.She was the official chief … [last lines, voiceover] Reinette Poisson : My Dear Doctor, The path has never seemed more slow and yet I fear I am nearing its end. 2 Got A Fitting Ending: The Ninth Doctor The Ninth Doctor had a strong sense of humor but also a hint of darkness hidden inside. Doctor who? In early 2005, Steven Moffat—who had written "The Empty Child" and "The Doctor Dances" for the series… Thanks kind stranger. And the Doctor thought Reinette was brilliant and Rose could not deny how poised she acted no matter the situation. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I´ve made three videos for three Doctor's one-episode companions. I think Joan Redfern might be a runner up, though. Doctor couldn't direct her. Here, the Doctor falls in love and - sorry prudish fans - … You love the King, of course? The Doctor: I can’t. This is for Madame de Pompadour (Sophia Myles). DOCTOR: How did you do that? A precursor to the Amy Pond story about a girl who knew the Doctor as a child, and then met him as an adult, but the story of Reinette does not end well for the Doctor. Romana is the only companion I think the Doctor should've had even a hint of romance for. Reinette was the nickname of Jeanne-Antoinette Poisson, also known as Madame de Pompadour. I was'nt sure before last episode if he is love or like as the other companions. Absolute proof, though they try to hide it in the end there. The most popular love interest (in my opinion) for Ten is Rose, of course, but I had a hard time with it, considering she was technically still with Mickey for a while. It also has alot of aspects that I find a bit problematic, which of course become running themes in the Moffat era. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I strongly believe this answer to be no. She peeked behind her but The Doctor ducked behind a stone urn. 100% agree. In 2004, Russell T Davies—Doctor Who's executive producer—was responsible for Casanova, a serial set in the 18th century. obligatory edit: silver, really? :-). Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. "Oh, Catherine, you are too wicked" Reinette laughed, as did Catherine. While I like that episode, I think Romana was the best love interest for The Doctor. And we saw at the last episode Doctor kiss her (never did before with any of women) and called her his wife. 2.7k. This was honestly such an amazing episode but the ending was so sad but yeah though it’s not an unpopular opinion the chemistry was great. And I look forward to meeting him. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So lonely. Love happens, though, and the second series of “Doctor Who” is at its heart a love story, telling not just the story of how Rose and the Doctor fall in love, but various other love stories that intersect with and illuminate the central relationship. That's because David Tennant and Sophia Myles were dating at the time. He saw Reinette walking and talking with a dark skinned woman. The relationship between the French madam and the alien traveller only had forty-five minutes to develop and I personally think that Madame de Pompadour and the Doctor didn’t get a good enough chance to bond. I always enjoy seeing her onscreen. This is the episode I showed my girlfriend to get her into Doctor Who. When he writes his biography, it should definitely be called The Long Way Round. Rose looks into his eyes, and sees more of him there than Reinette did in his mind; she sees age and death and sorrow and pity and longing and tiredness and love- love? Welp, guess it's time I cry myself to sleep once again after rewatchibg 'Girl in the fireplace'.... Well, I don't know about you but it's time for me to rewatch the Russell T. Davies era even though I only rewatched it less than 6 months ago. Later Madame D'Etoiles, later still mistress of Louis the XV, uncrowned Queen of French? I love Moffat to bits, but he definitely has a handful of favourite time-travel relationship themes that we see several times over. Soon enough, it became clear that Clara and the Doctor were most definitely in love with each other, despite not becoming lovers. IIRC their romance natural because Tennant and Myles were actually a couple at the time. After the worldwide fan re-watch of Doctor Who’s The Girl in the Fireplace, Sophia Myles’ Madame de Pompadour has returned in a sequel special story. Some feel that Reinette was one of the Doctor’s ultimate love-interests but I protest. "Oh, speaking of wicked," Catherine began. Still, I agree with you that Ten and Reinette did have chemistry and their whole thing was very cute. REINETTE: He is the King, and I love him with all my heart. They had a bit more time together. "Yeah? I’m on 11 right now, so I’m excited to see how big a role romance plays during his time. There are only a few friendships on TV so appealing, especially since these two had a friendship and an “unromantic” romance ⁠— something only they could pull off. DOCTOR: What did you see? And that night while Reinette danced with the king the Doctor danced with Rose Tyler. The fact that they were never even remotely "together" just makes it more so. Discussion. "What the hell is going on?" When he steps through one of these portals, shaped like a fireplace, the Doctor discovers the even greater mystery of actual, romantic love. Highly controversial (apparently) but Clara and Twelve have off the charts chemistry in a way that never quite landed for me with Matt Smith. But it's Reinette, Madame de Pompadour, the eponymous Girl in the Fireplace, that makes this such a special episode. These are qualities which intrigue and attract him. Yeah I agree- the ending with 10th Doctor reading Reinette's letter was so moving. Reinette and the Doctor, The Girl In The Fireplace. I like to think that a future incarnation goes back and picks her up in one instant of her life, they go on adventures before he drops her back to the moment he left her. Even with the Doctor never stating that he loves Reinette, his reaction to … Imagine if 5 and Romana were around at the same time lol. The Doctor promised Reinette she would travel with him but he returned to her too late and she had already died by then, waiting for him in vain. This is my lover, the King of France." No one else seemed to simply 'get' the Doctor like she did. That irked me a bit. This is dedicated to my favourite couple on Doctor Who, The Doctor (David Tennant) and Reinette (Sophia Myles.) Well I'm the Lord of Time and I came to fix the clock." She was the epitome of confidence and grace as she awaited the Doctor. 2. ;), She gave him cocoa though. Would have been a real treat if he married her. REINETTE: That there comes a time, Time Lord, when every lonely little boy must learn how to dance. Posted by 3 months ago. Not as sad as The Doctor's Wife, but still sad. God, the ending of this episode is quite sad. The Doctor found himself in the Versailles gardens. "Oh. Reinette captured my heart immediately. Preternaturally pretty. There's more believability to them than in any other romance in Who. Dance with me. What a gentleman. Read more about this topic on the Tardis Data Core. Unpopular opinion: Reinette was the Doctor's best love interest. Humans should be comparable to goldfish next to a Time Lord, it's cradle snatching to the extreme. “No hanky-panky in the TARDIS.” That phrase is the most famous articulation of the notion that the Doctor should not engage in human follies like love, romance, or sex, particularly with respect to his companions. There had been hints of it in his relationship with Rose, but the love isn’t as open as it is with Reinette. Rose Tyler showed fans and The Doctor himself that he can fall in love, but it also showed us how doing so is a bad idea for humans to get into. Well, right after actually, but you could see the spark of interest was there. That's my first ever medal thingy and I have no idea what it does. The Doctor merely turns and stares at her. A community dedicated to discussions and news for Doctor Who. Weird things about the name Reinette: The name spelled backwards is Ettenier. For their first trip with Mickey, the Tenth Doctor and Rose end up on a spaceship in the future that contains several portals to pre-Revolutionary France. That last bit foreshadowed River pretty neatly come to think of it. He wanted to show her all his toys and show her all the sights. Random Reinette Factoid: According to the 1934 U.S. Social Security Administration data, the first name Reinette is not a popular baby girl's name in Maine. In the original story, The Doctor (David Tennant) fell in love with Madame de Pompadour as he travelled to different points in her time stream to protect her from deadly clockwork droids. Reinette has risen again! No one else seemed to simply 'get' the Doctor like she did. she was on his wavelength. Reinette was the childhood nickname of Madame La Pompadour, perhaps a cute short form for Regina or Reina but hardly worthy of the full name on the birth certificate today. asked a man. I think she was the closest romantic interest in a tragic way as she was not a companion. Their connection was quick, yet their romance was natural. Reddit's Doctor Who Fan Community - News, Discussion, Artwork and Fan Creations! Close. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And the doctor always is there. (The Doctor is watching from behind a stone urn on a wall. My lonely Doctor. 181 comments. Reinette: Dance with me. She was visited throughout her life by the Tenth Doctor. She's been hooked ever since. Imagine that, only 5 babies in Maine have the same name in 1934. During his research, Davies became fascinated by Madame de Pompadour and wanted to include her in a story which also involved The Turk—a clockwork man who played chess around the same period and which was later revealed to be a hoax. I fully understood why they fell in love and I wish they'd had more time. You've never been alone in your life. Romana is the only companion I think the Doctor should've had even a hint of romance for. I will no longer stand by as this sub continues to ignore Cameca like this! How can you bear it? The Girl in the Fireplace was a fantastic episode. Can I say that I think Clara and Eleven would have been great if Smith had stayed for Season 8? "Doctor, I love you too." Clara/12 are the only Doctor/companion “couple” I’ve had strong feelings about, Best love interest for the Doctor was that lady from The Aztecs that he accidentally married. They didn't have love - they literally barely knew each other. For one, she's one of the only people we've seen that's on the same level of intelligence as he is. Later Madame D'Etoiles, later still mistress of Louis the XV, uncrowned Queen of French? He knew of her history but he definitely had feelings for her in the little time he spent with her. But River had her own adventures and invite doctor to come with her. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Dang, did he meet all his ladies on the DW set?? Reason tells me that you and I are unlikely to meet again, but I think I shall not listen to reason. "Who?" She was a member of the French court and the official chief mistress of King Louis XV of France. Much like Nancy in “The Empty Child” and “The Doctor Dances” was a symbol of England before winning WWII, Reinette in “The Girl In the Fireplace” symbolizes a nation. A peacock calls and Reinette turns around. The Doctor: I can’t. said Reinette. Now in terms of chemistry, I suppose they are pretty good. Reinette Origin and Meaning The name Reinette is a girl's name of French origin meaning "little queen". I think especially so because they more or less felt instantly "safe" with the other, which was not likely the case for them with anyone else. The Doctor: How did you do that? The Doctor founds Reinette's beauty lay more in her intelligence, level headedness, and openness to diversity. Concerns about the appearance of such impropriety go right back to the very beginning of Doctor Who, when “An Unearthly Child” writer Anthony Coburn insisted that the Doctor … REINETTE: That there comes a time, Time Lord, when every lonely little boy must learn how to dance. REINETTE: A door, once opened, can be stepped through in either direction. When did you start calling me Doctor? Please check out my videos and subscribe to … Lonely then and lonelier now. 1 year ago. I don't think they loved each other in the way you think they did, it was more of an admiration and respect for each other. Lexi's POV The Doctor dismounted from the horse and helped me down. Reinette: Then first I shall make him jealous. John Smith’s speech before he opens the watch made me bawl like a toddler. No, silly, the Doctor's best love interest was Jamie. DOCTOR: What do you mean, alone? Star-Crossed Lovers: Selene and Michael (an augmented vampire and a vampire/werewolf hybrid) and the Doctor and Erika/Reinette (an alien and an augmented vampire) It's more than just a secret, isn't it? Discussion. I don't think you are wrong. For another, Tom Baker and Lalla Ward did get married while making the show, so there's a natural chemistry between the two. There's also a reason no companion has lasted as long as Jamie has. Reinette: A door once opened may be stepped through in either direction. Reinette felt like someone was watching her. She understood him almost immediately; she was on his wavelength. The Doctor: This is the night you dance with the King. I would rather she had been the one to appear in the Day of the Doctor episode. Reinette, Madame De Pompadour, The Girl In The Fireplace. Unpopular opinion: Reinette was the Doctor's best love interest. She asks softly. The Doctor : No, no, no way, Reinette Poisson? Now it was the Doctor's turn not to speak as he drew Rose closer to him and did something he had wanted to do for a long time, he kissed her. Press J to jump to the feed. The classic series tended to shy away from Time Lordly love, although the first Doctor did coo over cocoa with Cameca in The Aztecs. Doc loved his chocolate!;). But I'm sure now. REINETTE: Such a lonely little boy. Credit to the actress Sophia Myles too. So very, very alone. They were engaged for Rassilon's sake and she's never even in the running! Reinette was so interesting character. 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